115. Conversation Tricks from an FBI Negotiation Trainer | Mark Goulston

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Mikhaila Peterson Logo  fiber_manual_record  Sep 22nd, 2021


I sat down today with Mark Goulston to discuss all things mental health-related. We got into the ins and outs of dealing with depression, his own techniques and tips on how to cope, and the Michelangelo Mindset. Mark Goulston is the Creator/Co-founder of Michelangelo Mindset, exec coach, best-selling author of nine books, and host of My Wakeup Call Podcast. He was originally a UCLA professor of psychiatry for over 25 years, and a former FBI and police hostage negotiation trainer. Show Notes 

[00:00] Intro 

[04:58] Surgical empathy 

[10:33] The Michelangelo Mindset 

[12:28] Mikhaila’s experience with depression and suicidal thoughts. 

[14:22] Teen mental health webinar and the Tell My Story documentary about youth mental health and suicide prevention. 

[19:05] The steps of the Michelangelo Mindset 

[22:14] What to do if your start-up pitch flops 

[27:09] What you want to create in a conversation with other people. 

[28:00] Steve Jobs Xerox story 

[31:32] What you can do to get that type of reaction 

[32:09] Creating bestselling book titles 

[34:45] Wisdom on never getting taken advantage of and Mark's experience with the OJ Simpson trial. 

[47:46] A tactic against bullies 

[46:00] Mark’s own story of depression 

[56:35] Mark’s interview with Jordan B. Peterson 

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