147. My Backstory Interview from Mark Goulston

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Mikhaila Peterson Logo  fiber_manual_record  May 6th, 2022


Dr. Mark Goulston and I discuss my experience with psychedelics, (im)patience, purpose, life patterns, and pretending you’re blind, as well as concepts like surgical empathy, coping (instead of healing), psychological adhesion, the {horror—terror—don't panic} trifecta, and how Ayahuasca can reconfigure minds as if they’re Rubik's cubes. Originally a UCLA psychiatry professor and FBI hostage negotiation trainer, Dr. Goulston’s expertise has been forged in real-life, high-stakes situations. Dr. Goulston is an executive coach and the author (or co-author) of nine books, including Just Listen and Get Out of Your Own Way: Overcoming Self-Defeating Behavior. He is also the host of the My Wakeup Call Podcast, which kindly hosted this episode.


[0:00] Intro

[2:55] Consistency in life, Purpose

[7:25] Determination vs. Anger

[9:03] Like a Blind Person Seeing for the 1st Time

[12:37] Dietary Change & Harvard

[16:45] Podcasting, OV

[19:08] Psychological Adhesion (vs. Attachment) & Resistance to Change

[22:40] Humiliating Billionaires

[25:18] Meat & (Losing Faith in) Authority

[30:08] Living in Disbelief

[33:03] Coping vs. Healing

[34:06] The {Horror/Terror/Don't Panic} Trifecta

[35:50] Psychedelics, Rubik's Cubes, & Surgical Empathy

[44:16] Annoyance vs. Impatience

[48:12] Dangers of Unconditional Empathy

[49:30] Outro

#Empathy #Coping #Psychedelics #Purpose #TheLionDiet

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